Steroidi e capelli.....

[TheBlade]

Certo,le controindicazioni le conosco,2 miei amici ne fanno uso da un po' di tempo.E' da un po che mi ronza sta domanda nel cervello,ma se uno inizia un ciclo di steroidi potrebbe usare la finasteride come contro farmaco x scongiurare il problema della perdita dei capelli dovuta x l'appunto al diidrotestosterone?
il problema dell'alopecia potrebbe manifestarsi con tutti i tipi di steroidi?(es.Deca-nandrolone, stanozololo..ecc)

[°°sOmOja°°]

il problema della perdita di capelli (se sei predisposto) dovrebbe verificarsi con tutti quei farmaci che comportano un aumento del testosterone.(da qui il mito che la calvizie fosse collegabile ad una maggiore virilità )

[relim7]

il problema della perdita di capelli (se sei predisposto) dovrebbe verificarsi con tutti quei farmaci che comportano un aumento del testosterone.(da qui il mito che la calvizie fosse collegabile ad una maggiore virilità )

Non solo il win non aumenta il testo ma essendo derivato dal dht da problemi comunque

[avido]

Non solo il win non aumenta il testo ma essendo derivato dal dht da problemi comunque

giusto poichè il testo non da problemi direttamente ma quando si trasforma in dht

[Alex1981]

E' da un po che mi ronza sta domanda nel cervello,ma se uno inizia un ciclo di steroidi potrebbe usare la finasteride come contro farmaco x scongiurare il problema della perdita dei capelli dovuta x l'appunto al diidrotestosterone?

Sarebbe un pò una stronzata, poichè la finasteride anche se non in modo massiccio, ostacolerebbe l'efficacia degli steroidi che si assumono; Diverse persone che conosco in seguito all'inizio di una terapia di finasteride hanno riscontrato cali di forza che, benchè non così eclatanti, a certi livelli danno "fastidio".

[fifty]

Scusami Blade, all'inizio del tuo post dici che degli steroidi non te ne frega nulla che è semplice curiosità. Dopo fai una domanda riguardo alla caduta dei capelli, dicendo che lo vuoi sapere perchè ci tieni troppo (ai tuoi capelli), non ti sembra una contraddizione? lungi da me farti paternali, ognuno è libero di fare ciò che vuole ma è semplice curiosità...

[TheBlade]

Hai ragione Fifty,cmq la mia rimane solo curiosita!L'argomento mi affascina moltissimo e qua ce' gente che sembra saperne abbastanza per chairimi le idee!!Inutile dire che SE mai dovessi pensare di iniziare un ciclo,mi affiderei ad un medico sportivo.
@Alex: a sta cosa avevo pensato pure io!

[fifty]

Resta il fatto che sarebbe un medico poco serio...

[avido]

Certo,le controindicazioni le conosco,2 miei amici ne fanno uso da un po' di tempo.E' da un po che mi ronza sta domanda nel cervello,ma se uno inizia un ciclo di steroidi potrebbe usare la finasteride come contro farmaco x scongiurare il problema della perdita dei capelli dovuta x l'appunto al diidrotestosterone?
il problema dell'alopecia potrebbe manifestarsi con tutti i tipi di steroidi?(es.Deca-nandrolone, stanozololo..ecc)

se la usi conun nandrolone fai un disastro.......il nandro non si degrada in dht

[TheBlade]

se la usi conun nandrolone fai un disastro.......il nandro non si degrada in dht

Grazie,ma adesso devi spiegarmi perche succede un disastro,tecnicamente parlando.ciau!

[Venom5]

avido non bazzica molto su questo forum.................prova a contattarlo altrove...........

[ultra]

se la usi conun nandrolone fai un disastro.......il nandro non si degrada in dht

Infatti si degrada nel ben peggiore DHN (diidronandrolone)...

[TheBlade]

nn prendetemi in giro,si degrata nel NOR-DHT,vero ne?

[shorinryu]

Non condono ne promuovo l' uso di steroidi, pero' e' importante essere informati forse questo articolo puo' essere utile (E' preso da un sito americano di ricerca sulla calvizie):

STEROIDS AND HAIR LOSS

HAIR LOSS AND "JUICE"

It used to be thought that having a full healthy head of hair and a muscular ripped body were contradictory, if not mutually exclusive propositions, after all if hair loss was related to DHT, and high male hormone levels, how could anyone maximize their own anabolic potential and not have to simultaneously deal with hair loss?? I am personally self absorbed and narcissistic enough to demand both, and have dedicated a great deal of time investigating just how I could have both. All I can tell you is that, after talking to literally hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders, and my own personal experience, it is possible, but you have to know what you're doing.

In this piece I will delve into what effects certain "anabolic agents" consistently have on scalp hair, so you won't inadvertently compromise your hair, or perhaps miss out on some beneficial anabolic agents for fear they will. It may seem to some like I'm advocating the use of certain steroids or stacks, and perhaps I am. I've been training for more then 20 years, and have rally been around the block in this business. I have never had a desire to compete, but have successfully (and unsuccessfully at times) used various "anabolic agents" to stay in top shape, and will continue to do so.

My commitment is simply to tell you in a straightforward, no BullShit way which ones are safe to use. The medical and legal considerations and ramifications are obviously yours to deal with on an individual basis. As always, consult a "physician".

Deca Durabolin - I've never had a problem with my hair on this one, neither have hundreds of other guys I've talked to. The safety of this steroid, as far as hairloss is concerned, stems from the fact that 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, instead of converting it to a stronger androgen like DHT, converts it to a very mild androgen called DHN. Taken in dosages of up to 300-400 mg weekly it shouldn't produce any hairloss problems, this is due to the fact that, being a highly HPTA supressive androgen, 300-400 mg are no more androgenic than our endogenous testosterone (supressed while we are taking it) would be.. One BIG word of caution: While you are taken Deca Durabolin never ever take 5AR blockers such as Proscar/Propecia, for it would block the conversion of nandrolone to DHN in tissues such as the scalp and the prostate, resulting in hairloss and BPH, which is what we are trying to avoid taking Deca.

Testosterone cypionate, propionate, etc., androderm, sustanon 250: All of these are different testosterone preparations, they all have the same properties as far as hairloss is concerned: they convert to DHT via 5-alpha-reductase enzyme. That's the main reason why testosterone is so androgenic. However, if one takes testosterone along with a 5AR blocker such as Proscar it's not nearly that harmful for your hair. So, if you are concerned about hairloss and are taking testosterone, always use it along with Proscar. Take into account that DHT is an anti-estrogen and blocking it while your body has supraphysiological levels of testosterone might lead to gynecomastia, so it's advisable to combine Proscar with Arimidex (an aromatase inhibitor).

Anadrol\50 - If you value your hair, don't touch this one with a ten foot pole. Nothing seems to control its negative effects on hair. Not Proscar, Not Nizoral, nothing...

Dianabol -Same as Anadrol\50.

Primobolan - One of the less androgenic steroids. If you are concerned about hairloss this steroid is for you. It's much more anabolic than it is androgenic.

Oxandrolone (Anavar) - It's the safest steroid for your hair along with Primobolan and Deca.

Boldenone (Equipoise) - After the Primo, Anavar and Deca this is probably one of the safest for your hair. Although it undergoes 5-alpha-reduction, its affinity for this enzyme is minimal, so there is very little conversion. Moreover, its 5-alpha-reduced form is not as androgenic as DHT.

DHEA - Does not negatively affect hair in men. May help prevent hair loss by offsetting the binding of DHT to follicles. The product is a Disaster for women with hair loss. DHEA causes hair loss in women much like DHT in Men. DHEA discriminates against women.

Androstenedione - The worst of all prohormones in the market. It has a low conversion to testosterone, around 5%, which is damn too low. Worse yet is the fact that, before converting to testosterone, androstenedione directly interacts with aromatase and 5AR, thus converting to estrogen and DHT prior to conversion to target hormone.. You will be far better of using testosterone than this scum.

1-testosterone - A legal steroid, at least for the time being. It's very androgenic and very anabolic. Although it's a 5-alpha-reduced steroid it converts to DHT through an unknown pathway, so using Proscar along with it won't avoid DHT conversion. Its anabolic/androgenic ratio (~(1.5-2):1) is slightly higher than that of test (1:1). Be wary while using this product if you value your hair.

As time goes on, certainly cleaner, anabolic agents will be developed. The vast majority of users I talked to, have been on Propecia/Proscar (FINASTERIDE)and Nizoral, myself included (amongst many other things).

Finally, take into account that you should also use topical spironolactone (2-5%) while juicing. This product directly antagonizes scalp ARs when used topically, hence it will be useful with any sort of steroid, even those that do not undergo 5-alpha-reduction.

Conclusion: The safety stack as far as hairloss is concerned would be a cycle consisting of Primobolan, Oxandrolone and Deca. Take into account that Deca, although being very mild for your hair, is not nearly as safe as oxandrolone and primobolan as far as HPTA supression and gynecomastia is concerned. If you want to play it completely safe when using steroid and avoid jeopardizing your health (and not only your hair) use cycles consisting of Oxandrolone and Primobolan

peace