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    Shawn non   collegato Mr Olympia
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    ciao Enrico cosa ne pensi per un natural? si pu fare?

    OVT Bulking program
    Christian Thibaudeau (2002-12-30 17:12:57 3)
    Somewhere in the dreaded 1990s, around 1995 to be precise, the training world was introduced to a new form of bodybuilding training: German Volume Training. That article was written by an (at the time) up-and-coming star (Charles Poliquin) and really changed the way peoples train to gain mass. The premise was relatively simple: Pick a few exercises and do 10 sets of 10 reps. Simple, yes, but very effective.

    However the program has some weaknesses. Some of which were pointed out in TC?s ?German Volume Training 2000?. To name a few of those weaknesses:

    - Possible overuse injuries from such a high volume of the same exercises.

    - Very high level of boredom. Call me crazy, but for me to stay motivated I must have at least some fun in the gym!

    - Not enough emphasis on some muscles and some muscle function. With GVT you cannot use many exercises because of the sheer volume would be too much! As a result you might develop some muscle imbalances.

    - This one is a new one: GVT neglects strength. In fact I?ve known several athletes who actually got weaker (in regard to their 1RM) on GVT even if they gained a lot of mass. The reason is that the super high volume, but low intensity causes mostly non-functional hypertrophy and doesn?t require an intense neuromotor involvement.

    For these reasons, the second generation of GVT: GVT2K, was a step forward and still remains a top of the line bodybuilding program. However it?s the last weakness that got me thinking, experimenting and tinkering. That?s how I came up with a variation of volume training that will increase strength and functional hypertrophy alike. Enter Optimized Volume Training!

    The overview

    For OVT I kept the basic premise of doing 100 total reps per muscle group, as it?s a time proven approach. However the distribution of those reps is vastly different from the original GVT program.

    First difference: Every set is in fact a superset of two exercises working the same muscle group(s). The first exercise in the superset is a big compound exercise (e.g. bench press, squat, deadlift, rowing, even clean or snatch) and it?s done for 5 reps using as much weight as possible. The second exercise in the superset is an isolation exercise for the main muscle being worked in the first exercise. This second exercise is also done for 5 reps, but with a small load and a very slow tempo (505).

    Second difference: While in GVT all the 10 sets were on the same exercise, we will employ two different supersets per muscle. Each superset being performed 5 times (50 total reps per superset). This will allow us to use 4 different exercises for a muscle group, which should take care of boredom and imbalances.

    Third difference: In the original program the prescribed rest interval is 60 seconds. Since we want to be able to lift a bit more weight we?re going to take 120 seconds in OVT. But there is no rest between exercises in the same superset.

    Training split

    Because of the high demands of the program, each body part is only worked once per week. The following split is to be used:

    Day 1: Chest and back
    Day 2: Legs and abs
    Day 3: OFF
    Day 4: Biceps and triceps
    Day 5: OFF
    Day 6: Anterior/medial deltoid and rear deltoid
    Day 7: OFF

    While exercise selection can vary according to your preferences, the following has been proven very effective:

    Day 1: Chest and back
    A1. Bench press
    5 reps with 80-85% of your max
    201 tempo

    A2. Flat dumbbell flies
    5 reps with 60-65% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset A. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    B1. Incline bench press
    5 reps with 75-80% of your max
    201 tempo

    B2. Incline flies
    5 reps with 55-60% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset B. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    C1. Lat pulldown
    5 reps with 80-85% of your max
    201 tempo

    C2. 1 arm rowing
    5 reps with 60-65% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset C. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    D1. Bent over barbell rowing
    5 reps with 75-80% of your max
    201 tempo

    D2. Seated cable rowing to abdomen
    5 reps with 55-60% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset D. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    Day 2: Leg and abs

    A1. Front squat
    5 reps with 80-85% of your max
    201 tempo

    A2. Barbell lunges
    5 reps with 60-65% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset A. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    B1. 1 leg back extension
    5 reps with 75-80% of your max
    201 tempo

    B2. Leg curl
    5 reps with 55-60% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset B. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    C1. Sumo deadlift
    5 reps with 80-85% of your max
    201 tempo

    C2. Romanian deadlift
    5 reps with 60-65% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset C. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    Abs are done according to individual preferences.

    (note that because of the involvement of all the leg muscles in most of the exercises we only do 3 supersets instead of 4)

    Day 4: Biceps and Triceps

    A1. Standing barbell curl (shoulder width grip)
    5 reps with 80-85% of your max
    201 tempo

    A2. Seated alternate dumbbell curl
    5 reps with 60-65% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset A. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    B1. Scott bench curl
    5 reps with 75-80% of your max
    201 tempo

    B2. Standing alternate hammer grip dumbbell curl
    5 reps with 55-60% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset B. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    C1. Weighted dips
    5 reps with 80-85% of your max
    201 tempo

    C2. Decline dumbbell triceps extension
    5 reps with 60-65% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset C. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    D1. Barbell lying triceps extension
    5 reps with 75-80% of your max
    201 tempo

    D2. Cable pressdown
    5 reps with 55-60% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset D. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    Day 6: Anterior/medial deltoid and posterior deltoid

    A1. Military press
    5 reps with 80-85% of your max
    201 tempo

    A2. Incline dumbbell lateral raises
    5 reps with 60-65% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset A. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    B1. Seated alternate dumbbell press
    5 reps with 75-80% of your max
    201 tempo

    B2. Standing plate front raise
    5 reps with 55-60% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset B. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    C1. Seated cable row to the neck
    5 reps with 80-85% of your max
    201 tempo

    C2. Bent over dumbbell rear delt raises
    5 reps with 60-65% of your max
    505 tempo

    Repeat superset C. 5 times with 120 seconds of rest.

    (note that because the rear deltoid is already heavily involved in the back workout we only include one superset for it)

    Changing the exercises

    Exercise variation is important. For OVT I recommend using blocks of 4 weeks of training. Perform the same exercises for 4 weeks, then choose other exercises and complete another 4 weeks block. A complete cycle of OVT lasts 8 week. After which you should engage in an easier form of training for 1-2 weeks to allow for the maximal delayed effect.

    Load progression

    One of the keys to OVT success is the constant drive to increase the load on the first exercise of all the supersets from week to week. This will literally make or break the program! Strive to increase the load but not at the expense of proper form! For the second exercise of each superset, load progression is not as important, its role is mostly to increase training volume and total time under tension. If you can increase the load in this exercise, great! But as long as you are progressing on the heavy exercise you?ll be fine.

    You?ll notice that I include percentages, these are just guidelines. The important thing is to go as heavy as possible for the first exercise of a superset while using a light, controllable load for the second one.

    Conclusion

    I firmly believe that with OVT a new door has been opened as far as gaining size is concerned. Not only will it give you a lot of new muscle, that new muscle will be functional and you?ll have the strength to go with your size!

  2. #2
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    enrico1968 non   collegato Mr Italia
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    Non credo proprio, forse un easy potrebbe reggere un paio di settimane ma un normo-dotato skianta subito.
    1. il superset pur usando dei pesi da formica provoca un accumulo di acido lattico elevato prova a pensare cosa succede con 10 superset per gruppo muscolare....
    2. 2 sessioni attaccate come riportate in esempio pur allenando gruppi diversi sono improponibili vorrei vedere fare squat o pressa avendo petto e dorso indolenziti dall'acidificazione del giorno prima.
    3. Mi ricorda molto il muscle spinning routine adottata negli anni 50 consisteva di fare 5 serie per 15 ripetizioni con pesi da formica con 4-5 esercizi per gruppo e tempi di riposo ridotti all'osso creava un pompaggio mostruoso che li' per li' faceva gridare al miracolo ma su stessa ammissione dell'autore se non si praticava regolarmente i risultati si perdono velocemente.
    Se vuoi toglierti lo sfizio provalo ma il GVT al limite lo vedo piu' "sensato" (notare le virgolette )
    ciao
    Puoi programmare se devi fare una performance sportiva non se stai cercando di ipertrofizzare un bicipite.
    Enrico Z.

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    Shawn non   collegato Mr Olympia
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    no assolutamente non lo avrei mai provato tale e qual'...avrei sicuramente ridotto la frequenza e poi le serie....tanto per uno stimolo diverso....
    tu quante serie faresti al limite?

    io farei degli abbinamenti petto dorso spalle braccia e gambe, ma in 3 o meglio 2 volte a settimana...

  4. #4
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    enrico1968 non   collegato Mr Italia
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    3 superset per gruppo partirei da li' sempre molto ma se si diminuisce secondo me potrebbe sfumare l'intento di questo metodo cioe' creare un grosso pompaggio, Shawn credo che per le finalita' del sistema 3 volte sia meglio che due in questo caso, in quanto un metodo che punta sulla frequenza e sul mantenimento del pompaggio e come fare GVT 2 volte a settimana, perde di efficacia.
    Puoi programmare se devi fare una performance sportiva non se stai cercando di ipertrofizzare un bicipite.
    Enrico Z.

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    Shawn non   collegato Mr Olympia
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    hai ragione

 

 

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